Jonathan Pageau & Jay Dyer: The Elites Are Doing Warfare on the Public
Aug 25, 2026 · 1h 18m
Summary
Jay Dyer joins Jonathan Pajot to discuss "predictive programming," arguing that Hollywood and intelligence agencies use media to psychologically condition the public for future geopolitical shifts. They analyze how narratives evolved from Cold War individualism to War on Terror themes, citing CIA involvement in films like *Alias* and *Zero Dark Thirty*. The conversation explores how pop culture normalizes concepts like AI surveillance and globalism, often portraying these technologies negatively initially to desensitize audiences before their real-world implementation.
Topics discussed
Introduction: CFR, military history, and total war
Defining predictive programming and its sources
WWII propaganda, Edward Bernays, and James Bond
Individualism vs. order and sci-fi conditioning
Product placement and the push for consumer order
Blockbuster films and British intelligence origins
Novels, Korda Circle, and Hollywood liaison offices
Military recruitment and honey trap narratives
Shifting narratives: Middle East terror and 9/11
Post-9/11 CIA influence on Mission Impossible
The revolutionary trope and Cold War Americanism
Red Dawn, rugged individualism, and Bond villains
War on nationalism and the new external threat
Synarchy, secret governance, and the Osama bin Laden shift
Shifting enemies and the neutrality of predictive programming
Bad apples narrative and Minority Report tech
The Matrix, gender narratives, and state incentives
Malthusian ideology and population reduction goals
Reading elite strategy: Brzezinski, Kurzweil, and Huxley
AI infrastructure, data centers, and environmental trade-offs
AI inevitability, credit systems, and surveillance
Economic risks of AI and the disconnect of elites
Local action, independent politics, and closing remarks
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