Episode #74: What Happened at the Po' Folks.
Aug 27, 2026 · 1h 5m
Summary
Hosts Therese Abin and Sarah Perkins Ricks interview former Jackson PD SWAT member Charlie Smith about the 1996 Po Folks restaurant siege. Smith recounts the intense standoff with a heavily armed white supremacist who barricaded himself inside, resulting in one civilian death and a reporter being shot. The episode details the tactical challenges, the suspect's suicide by fire, and the recovery of extensive weaponry and extremist literature. Smith also reflects on how policing tactics and media relations have evolved since the incident.
Topics discussed
Introduction to Investigation Homicide and guest backgrounds
The 1996 Po Folks shootout: Context and the 'Murder Club'
SWAT response, armored vehicle malfunction, and initial engagement
The standoff: Fire, ammunition, and the suspect's suicide
Crime scene investigation: Weapons, fortifications, and evidence
Suspect's home search: Manifesto, ideology, and planning
Casualties, officer bravery, and post-incident celebrations
SWAT culture, debriefing, and changes in police tactics
Comparing past and present policing: Authority and control
Media relations: Public records, boundaries, and truth
The burden on police: Social work vs. law enforcement
Conclusion: Good cops, bad cops, and final reflections
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