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Luke Harding and Alastair Campbell: Trump, Putin and the New Age of Conquest (Part One)

Sep 13, 2026 · 33m

Summary

Guardian correspondent Luke Harding and former Downing Street chief Alastair Campbell discuss Harding’s new book, *Betrayal*, analyzing how Trump’s foreign policy and Russia’s war in Ukraine are dismantling the post-war international order. They critique the US diplomatic approach, highlighting the humiliation of Zelensky in the Oval Office and the Alaska summit as evidence of a shift toward great power politics driven by coercion and national self-interest rather than rule of law.

Topics discussed

Introduction and episode overview Introducing the book and current diplomatic efforts Critique of US envoys Witkoff and Kushner Zelensky's dilemma and Trump's alignment with Putin Trump's indifference to Ukraine and business-first diplomacy Ukraine's disappointment with the Biden administration Ukrainian expectations of Trump in 2024 The UN vote: US sides with Russia against Ukraine Sponsor breaks Scott Bessent's aggressive tactics and misinformation The Oval Office ambush of Zelensky MAGA figures and ideological affinity with Russia The Alaska summit and Trump's deference to Putin Analyzing the roots of the Trump-Putin relationship Compromise, wealth, and the end of the episode Closing sponsor breaks
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