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Anthony Scaramucci and Tina Brown on How To Fix America, Live in London

Sep 20, 2026 · 1h 37m

Summary

Anthony Scaramucci discusses his new book, *All the Wrong Moves*, with Tina Brown, arguing that three catastrophic policy decisions—admitting China to the WTO, the Iraq War, and the 2008 bank bailout—paved the way for Trump’s rise. Scaramucci shares personal anecdotes from his 11-day tenure in the White House and reflects on his role in the Republican Party, while Brown challenges his views on celebrity culture and the enduring impact of Trumpism on American politics.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest introduction Audience poll on Trump's legacy Three catastrophic decisions leading to Trump The 11 days: Air Force One and firing story Why Scaramucci joined the campaign China, trade, and the hollowing of blue-collar jobs WTO, currency, and the 2008 financial crisis Data centers, AI, and political backlash 9/11, the Iraq War, and national debt 2008 crisis and the rise of populism Why voters chose Trump over Biden and Clinton Project 2025 and the 'Nerd Reich' strategy Commercial break Reforming the presidency and fixing the budget Midterm election outlook and Trump's influence Trump's obsession with the Kennedy Center Accountability, pardons, and foreign policy Democratic candidates and the 2028 race US-Canada trade deal and Mark Carney NATO, Gen Z, and closing remarks
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