Ep167 "What Happens With Stone Age Brains + Godlike Tools?" with Steven Kotler
Aug 17, 2026 · 38m
Summary
Neuroscientist David Eagleman interviews Stephen Kotler about their book *We Are As Gods*, exploring the clash between Stone Age brains and godlike technology. They discuss how exponential change causes cognitive overload and anxiety, arguing that flow states and curiosity are vital antidotes. The conversation highlights the psychological challenges of abundance and the need to maintain human agency and "virtuous friction" in an AI-driven world.
Topics discussed
Introduction: Stone Age brains vs. godlike technology
Sponsorships and promotional segments
The mismatch between evolutionary environment and modern tech
Defining technology and its impact on human cognition
The psychological challenge of exponential change and lost friction
Introduction to guest Stephen Hawking and his book
Comparing modern technology to biblical miracles
The central problem: Stone Age brains with godlike tools
Evidence of the shift from scarcity to abundance
Information overload and the limits of human attention
Choice paralysis, meaning drift, and the rise of burnout
Why the brain struggles to model exponential futures
The benefits of flow states for productivity and mental health
Sponsorships and promotional segments
The dark side of abundance: mental health and environmental issues
External locus of control and the victim mindset
The necessity of friction and challenge for human growth
Rules for working with AI to maintain creativity
Cooperation at scale and group flow as a solution
Curiosity as the essential survival skill of the 21st century
Conclusion: Navigating machine speed with biological brains
Outro and additional podcast promotions
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