How to pursue excellence ... in noodles
Jun 5, 2026 · 46m
Summary
Host PJ interviews Jason Wang, CEO of Xi’an Famous Foods, about his journey from a basement stall in Flushing to a 25 locations. They discuss his family’s immigrant roots, the unique spicy-sour flavors of Xi’an cuisine, and the challenges of maintaining quality during expansion. Wang shares stories of Anthony Bourdain’s early endorsement and the intense dedication required to fight the natural tendency for things to "suck."
Topics discussed
Introduction: The philosophy of fighting entropy and the noodle shop sign
Guest intro: Jason Chen on his upbringing in Xi'an, China
Immigration stories: Adapting to American food culture and smells
Father's journey: Nomadic restaurant work and starting the business
Early days: Bubble tea stall, Golden Shopping Mall, and viral fame
Taking over: Jason returns from college to help expand the brand
Scaling up: Opening new locations and managing father-son dynamics
Pandemic impact: Meal kits and the challenge of maintaining quality
Delivery strategy: Limiting radius to protect the dining experience
Future outlook: Contentment, family, and upcoming DC area locations
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