Naza: The film the Israeli Government doesn't want you to see
Summary
This episode discusses the new documentary "NASA," which features anonymous interviews with Israeli soldiers and intelligence officers revealing the use of AI and surveillance to calculate civilian casualties in Gaza. Irish Times correspondent Donald Clarke speaks with the filmmakers about the film's critical reception, the chilling detachment of the IDF, and the severe backlash from the Israeli government, including threats of treason charges against the directors.
Topics discussed
Introduction to the documentary NASA
Overview of interviews and the targeting system
Definition of NASA and Venice Film Festival premiere
Backlash in Israel and introduction of Donald Clarke
Donald Clarke's reaction to the screening
Summary of the film's content and scale of casualties
AI technology and the Lavender program
The 'Where is Daddy' tracking algorithm
Cinematic style and contrast with Tel Aviv life
Lack of regret and the 'cogs in the machine' defense
Disturbing anecdotes and the 'video game' mentality
Remote warfare and intimate surveillance of targets
Whistleblower mood and the 'insanely fun' comment
Netanyahu's denial and initial global reaction
Criticism from pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli sides
Accusations of 'shooting and crying' genre
Israeli government threats and legal actions
Comparison to 'No Other Land' and filmmaker's perspective
Free release by The Guardian and public service remit
Closing remarks and credits
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