Jad Abumrad: The Space Between the Brains
Jul 2, 2026 · 1h 15m
Summary
Hank Green interviews Jad Abumrad, co-creator of Radiolab, discussing his unique approach to audio storytelling that blends music and speech. They explore the origins of Radiolab, the creative partnership with Robert Krulwich, and the concept of finding "music" in conversation. The dialogue also touches on the evolution of podcasting, the gap between creative taste and skill, and the joy of making art for its own sake.
Topics discussed
Introduction to Radiolab and Jad Abumrad
The art of audio production and sound design
Music, language, and human communication
Music trends, genre policing, and the YouTube age
The origin story of Radiolab and Ira Glass
Navigating the gap between taste and skill
Perfectionism, audience metrics, and creative fulfillment
Choosing topics: Fela Kuti and Dolly Parton
Reporting from Nigeria and interviewing Dolly Parton
Radiolab's evolution from science to human stories
AI, technology, and the need to re-enchant the world
Wonder, ignorance, and the joy of learning
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