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Why Learn Something That a Machine Can Do for You?

Aug 17, 2026 · 33m

Summary

Hosts Julie Beck and Natalie Brennan interview cognitive psychologist Michelle Miller about the purpose of learning in the age of AI. They explore whether outsourcing tasks to technology diminishes human agency, arguing that learning builds the mind and fosters connection. The discussion highlights how intentional effort, rather than convenience, gives learning its meaning and value for individual growth and democracy.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: LinkedIn Hiring Pro and Tidy Cats Introduction: Michelle Miller and the purpose of learning The shift from coding to AI prompting and the value of learning Michelle Miller on archery, knitting, and technology as tools The ultimate purpose of learning: agency and connection When technology helps: Retrieval practice and educational tools When technology hinders: Episodic memory and attention The value of learning skills you can outsource to AI AI vs. Calculators: Outsourcing tasks vs. thought processes Maintaining human control and intentionality with AI Sponsors: LinkedIn Hiring Pro and Tidy Cats Learning, critical thinking, and the health of democracy Reframing technology: A mirror, not a pollutant Learning Korean: The value of effort and connection Cognitive benefits of learning and investing care Credits and preview of next week's episode
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