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The last places without human sounds (w/ Matt Mikkelsen)

Aug 24, 2026 · 43m

Summary

Host Chris Hayes interviews Matthew Mickelson, a sound engineer and director of Quiet Parks International, about the critical need to preserve natural quiet from noise pollution. Mickelson distinguishes between physical silence and the emotional feeling of quiet, explaining how anthropogenic noise harms both human health and wildlife communication. He shares personal anecdotes, including recording coyotes and surviving a lightning strike, to illustrate how mindful listening can restore a sense of wonder and connection to the natural world.

Topics discussed

Sponsors and show introduction Introducing Matthew Mickelson and noise pollution Ad break: Best Western, Bombas, and Toyota Defining quiet vs. silence and Matthew's background The importance of preserving quiet spaces Health impacts of noise pollution Personal experiences with quiet and scientific criteria Subjective perception of sound and natural environments Noise pollution vs. useful information in soundscapes Quiet Parks International mission and programs Ad break: Wayfair, Kohler, and Ethos Sound as a memory trigger and recording nature Recording coyotes in Yellowstone and near-death experiences What sounds resonate most with listeners Listening with wonder and avoiding distraction Practical tips for mindful listening in daily life Favorite sounds: sexiest, loneliest, and happiest Outro, audience survey, and final sponsors
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