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Summer Fridays: The art of paying attention (w/ Wendy MacNaughton and Laurel Braitman)

Aug 28, 2026 · 37m

Summary

Host Chris Duffy interviews artists Laurel Brame and Wendy McNaughton about their collaborative "Attention Club," which uses writing and drawing to cultivate presence. They discuss overcoming perfectionism, embracing mistakes as creative opportunities, and exercises like blind contour drawing to deepen human connection. The conversation explores how slowing down and noticing details can unlock creativity and help people process grief and joy.

Topics discussed

Sponsors and Summer Fridays Archive Intro Guests Laurel & Wendy and Attention Club Sponsors: Bombas, Skylight, Best Western How Laurel and Wendy Met and Collaborated Using Art to Cultivate Attention Perfectionism and the Fear of Mistakes Blind Contour Drawing Exercise Overcoming Creative Blocks and Just Doing Sponsors: Wayfair and Modalert Specificity, Objects, and Vulnerability in Writing Defining Success and Managing Ambition Wendy's Book 'How to Say Goodbye' Outro, Credits, and Final Sponsors
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