Banza: Brian Rudolph. The Chickpea Pasta That Nearly Turned to Mush
Sep 21, 2026 · 58m
Summary
On this episode of *How I Built This*, Bonza co-founder Brian Rudolph shares the journey of turning his wheat sensitivity into a chickpea pasta empire. He details the chaotic early days, including a disastrous manufacturing run that forced him to sell "steeped" pasta to meet retailer deadlines, and the strategic branding decisions that made the orange box a grocery staple. The interview also covers a major 2024 crisis when a viral report alleged high glyphosate levels in their product, prompting Rudolph to discuss how the company managed the resulting public fear and sales decline while mai…
Topics discussed
Sponsors and show introduction
Bonza overview and the rise of chickpea pasta
Brian Rudolph's background in Detroit and tech
Personal health issues and the discovery of wheat sensitivity
Experimenting with chickpeas and the environmental angle
Early kitchen prototypes and the first CapEx
Naming the company and getting his brother on board
Raising initial funds and the CNBC reality TV pitch
Securing first retail accounts at Meijer and Eataly
Manufacturing challenges and the kidney stone crisis
Sponsors and return from break
The 'steep like tea' workaround and small-batch production
Reality TV launch, product flaws, and early brand loyalty
Packaging design and the choice of bright orange
Scaling up: partnering with the former rival facility
Expansion into Target and social media growth
The 2024 glyphosate contamination crisis begins
Immediate response, sales drop, and waiting for test results
Implementing CleanScan certification and public accountability
Product line expansion, luck vs. hard work, and credits
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