How I Built This with Guy Raz How I Built This with Guy Raz

Banza: Brian Rudolph. The Chickpea Pasta That Nearly Turned to Mush

Sep 21, 2026 · 58m

Summary

On this episode of *How I Built This*, Bonza co-founder Brian Rudolph shares the journey of turning his wheat sensitivity into a chickpea pasta empire. He details the chaotic early days, including a disastrous manufacturing run that forced him to sell "steeped" pasta to meet retailer deadlines, and the strategic branding decisions that made the orange box a grocery staple. The interview also covers a major 2024 crisis when a viral report alleged high glyphosate levels in their product, prompting Rudolph to discuss how the company managed the resulting public fear and sales decline while mai…

Topics discussed

Sponsors and show introduction Bonza overview and the rise of chickpea pasta Brian Rudolph's background in Detroit and tech Personal health issues and the discovery of wheat sensitivity Experimenting with chickpeas and the environmental angle Early kitchen prototypes and the first CapEx Naming the company and getting his brother on board Raising initial funds and the CNBC reality TV pitch Securing first retail accounts at Meijer and Eataly Manufacturing challenges and the kidney stone crisis Sponsors and return from break The 'steep like tea' workaround and small-batch production Reality TV launch, product flaws, and early brand loyalty Packaging design and the choice of bright orange Scaling up: partnering with the former rival facility Expansion into Target and social media growth The 2024 glyphosate contamination crisis begins Immediate response, sales drop, and waiting for test results Implementing CleanScan certification and public accountability Product line expansion, luck vs. hard work, and credits
Listen ad-free on Castria