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Changing Our Mental Maps

Jul 13, 2026 · 1h 34m

Summary

Host Shankar Vedantam interviews psychologist Norman Farb about how the brain’s default mode network creates mental maps that can become rigid and inaccurate. Using his mother’s depression as a case study, Farb explains how over-reliance on internal narratives disconnects us from sensory reality, perpetuating suffering. The episode explores how updating these internal maps and reconnecting with present-moment sensations can help us navigate life’s unexpected changes more effectively.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The dangers of relying on mental maps TikTok physics experiments and sponsor messages Norm Farb on his mother's depression and rigid expectations The brain's default mode network and internal maps Neuroscience of depression: ignoring bodily signals The 'second arrow' of suffering and mindfulness practice Dave Evans on radical acceptance and design thinking Listener stories on acceptance: career, relationships, and identity Conclusion: Distinguishing problems from circumstances
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