Join the Hey Jonas Book Club
Sep 3, 2026 · 37m
Summary
Jonas Brothers sit down with journalist John Ronson to discuss his new book, *The Castle*, and his insights on psychopathy, public shaming, and cancel culture. Ronson shares terrifying anecdotes from his investigative career, including a story about a mysterious castle owner who threatened him with hired murderers. The conversation explores the psychological impact of online outrage, the rise of unashamed behavior, and the importance of approaching others with curiosity rather than judgment.
Topics discussed
Sponsors: PetSmart, ChatGPT, and YouTube Premium
Introducing guest John Ronson and his new book
Defining psychopathy and societal rewards for it
ChatGPT as a psychopath and the Alan Turing story
Empathy in storytelling and the Justine Sacco case
Curiosity vs. judgment and the rise of unashamed content creators
Sponsors: State Farm, ChatGPT, Pura, and PetSmart
The dangers of interviewing extreme subjects
The Castle: A terrifying reality show invitation
Handling death threats and finding humor in fear
John's career origins and film adaptations
Sponsors and the evolution of cancel culture
Advice on social media outrage and waiting periods
The Jumbotron incident and public shaming
UFO hunting with Robbie Williams and closing thoughts
Final sponsors: ChatGPT, Pura, and Pepperidge Farm
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