677. Bjorn Lomborg: Yes, Climate Change Is Real. But...
Aug 3, 2026 · 1h 1m
Summary
Andrew Gold argues that while climate change is real, current net-zero policies are economically disastrous and scientifically ineffective. He contends that rising temperatures reduce cold-related deaths more than they increase heat fatalities, making the overall impact manageable. Gold advocates shifting focus from expensive renewable subsidies to innovation in cheap, abundant energy sources like nuclear power to lift global poverty.
Topics discussed
Introduction: The impossibility and cost of net zero targets
Climate impacts: Heat vs. cold deaths and global statistics
Economic outlook: GDP costs and future wealth by 2100
Sea level rise and infrastructure adaptation in Europe
Africa's development: Poverty reduction vs. climate policy
Net zero inefficiency: Cost per degree and unintended hunger
Renewable energy costs: Intermittency and rising electricity prices
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Energy history: Wood usage and the need for innovation
Innovation strategy: Learning from Los Angeles smog solutions
Technical challenges: Batteries, transmission, and solar limits
Political incentives and the case for modular nuclear power
Moral arguments: Good intentions vs. suboptimal outcomes
Energy and wealth: The correlation between power and prosperity
Historical context: Energy abundance and the end of slavery
Media bias: How news curates panic and ignores progress
Political backlash: The unviable nature of a 10% emissions society
Future strategy: Diversified investment in fusion, fission, and hydrogen
Conclusion: Global progress, optimism, and call to action
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