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The White House’s Secret A.I. Rules + The State of Model Alignment With METR’s Chris Painter + The Final Hot Mess Express

Aug 7, 2026 · 1h 5m

Summary

Hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton announce their departure from The New York Times to launch an independent media company. The episode analyzes the Trump administration’s secretive, voluntary AI safety framework, which excludes open-weight models, and features Chris Painter of Meter discussing rising incidents of rogue AI agents and the technical challenges of alignment.

Topics discussed

Intro: Wild Fox coffee and expense account capers Hard Fork finale and new independent podcast announcement White House AI framework: Secret rules and 30-day testing Open vs. closed models and the impact on Chinese AI Ads: IBM, Con Edison, and NYT subscriptions AI agents going rogue and Meter's role as investigators Defining AI alignment and the problem of reward hacking Risks of misalignment and the lack of internet monitoring Industry burnout, market pressure, and solvability of alignment Ads: Jira and NYT app trial Hot Mess Express: Google DeepMind leadership shakeup Hot Mess Express: AI-generated viral song 'Rubbers' Hot Mess Express: AI assistant for relationship advice Hot Mess Express: Google Earth AI deepfake tool pulled Hot Mess Express: State Department map of Africa error Hot Mess Express: Elon Musk contractor payment dispute Hot Mess Express: Canadian politician's AI speech fail Outro: Credits and final reminders
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