For Back-to-School, It's Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (with Caitlin Gilbert)
Aug 22, 2026 · 1h 1m
Summary
Hosts Caitlin M. Green and Trent Nelson interview Washington Post data reporter Caitlyn S. Gilbert about declining school vaccination rates. They discuss how post-pandemic distrust, lax enforcement, and anti-vaccine misinformation have reduced herd immunity, endangering vulnerable populations. The episode explains the science of vaccines, debunks myths about immune overload, and highlights the resurgence of diseases like measles.
Topics discussed
Intro: White blood cells, battle plans, and back-to-school season
Guest intro and alarming drop in school vaccination rates
Drivers of decline: Politicization, anti-vax movement, and lost resources
Risks of low immunity: Measles, whooping cough, and herd immunity
The myth of individual health and the reality of community protection
How vaccines work: Training the immune system vs. preventing infection
Debunking the '72 shots' myth and vaccine schedule safety
Historical context: Smallpox, living memory, and generational amnesia
Current access: Budget cuts, executive orders, and pediatrician advice
The rise of 'biohacking' and supplements as vaccine alternatives
Desire for control and the myth of a pre-vaccine utopia
The danger of forgetting history: Measles and fascism
Solutions: Community trust, personal connection, and local action
Flu vaccines, RFK Jr., and the rise of polio
Misconceptions about safety testing and placebo trials
Financial incentives behind anti-vax movements and conspiracy theories
Policy solutions: States with no non-medical exemptions
Outro: Support Liberal Currents and Half the Answer
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