Jodi Picoult: Why Every Villain is the Hero of Their Own Story
Summary
Jodi Picoult discusses her new novel, Hollow Bones, exploring how 9/11 and the pandemic shaped collective grief and unity. She shares insights on her research methods, including interviewing controversial figures to present balanced perspectives, and reflects on the psychology of self-protection and lying. The conversation also covers gender discrimination in publishing, the enduring power of empathy, and her personal journey as a writer approaching her 30th book.
Topics discussed
Intro: Jody Picoult, 9/11, and the book 'Hollow Bones'
Sponsor reads and show introduction
Timing the book release for the 25th anniversary of 9/11
Personal memories of 9/11 and the aftermath in New York
The central character Molly and her 25-year preparation for disaster
Research methods: shadowing subjects and living their experiences
Writing difficult perspectives and the psychological toll
Presenting multiple viewpoints to encourage critical thinking
Trust in public health officials post-pandemic
Sponsor segments: Bombus and Wayfair
Sponsor segment: Function Health and brain health
The concept of the 'villain' as a hero in their own story
Personal story: Son coming out and interviewing a Focus on the Family rep
Navigating the 'Jesus Wall' and maintaining objectivity in interviews
The value of gray areas and nuance in storytelling
Sponsor segments: Kohler, Ernesto Rug, and Whole Foods
The cost of rewriting personal narratives and self-protection
Lessons from death doulas and the truth in dying
Gender discrimination in publishing and the Shakespeare mystery
Challenging the 'chick lit' label and women's fiction stereotypes
Book banning, organized advocacy groups, and the importance of empathy
Turning 60: reflections on aging, visibility, and vitality
Urgency, possibility, and the status of a long career
Closing thoughts: living a good life and distinguishing truth from comfort
Outro, credits, and final sponsor reads
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