Host Bill Roggio and guest Caleb Weiss analyze the intensifying jihadist threat in Africa, focusing on Al-Shabaab’s resilience in Somalia and JNIM’s expansion in Mali. They discuss U.S. frustration with Somalia’s political instability, the potential withdrawal of support for the African Union mission, and the limited impact of drone strikes without a coherent strategy. The episode concludes with a critique of polarized views on Al-Qaeda’s current strength, arguing for a nuanced understanding of its enduring network.