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Lina Khan on the AI-Safety Panic

Sep 18, 2026 · 34m

Summary

Host Charlie Warzel interviews former FTC Chair Lina Kahn about the AI safety crisis triggered by an Anthropic whistleblower. They discuss why existing laws like product liability and antitrust apply to AI, countering claims of regulatory exemption. Kahn argues that while existential risks are debated, immediate harms like surveillance pricing and defective chatbots require urgent enforcement. The conversation highlights the need for robust government oversight to prevent regulatory capture and ensure accountability in the rapidly evolving AI industry.

Topics discussed

Sponsor reads and show introduction Background on the AI safety crisis and Lina Khan's role Why the AI safety panic is breaking through now The black box problem and existing legal obligations Debunking the myth of AI legal exemption The need for new frameworks vs. self-regulation Legal ramifications for model misbehavior and intent Sponsor reads Political coalitions and the dismantling of oversight Avoiding regulatory capture and the role of money in politics Concrete enforcement steps and industry interconnections Existing harms: product liability and worker impact AI's contribution to the cost of living crisis Evaluating CEO proposals and the risk of toothless rules Trust in AI executives and the call for antitrust exemptions Sponsor reads Historical parallels: railroads, cars, and web 2.0 Closing thoughts on congressional oversight and subscription
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