The race for tech supremacy: The U.S. vs. China
Aug 12, 2026 · 45m
Summary
Fresh Air host Terry Gross interviews New Yorker writer Evan Osnos about his article "The Future Made in China." They discuss how China is leveraging U.S. distractions in Iran and Trump’s tariffs to expand its global influence. Osnos details China’s technological dominance in EVs, batteries, and AI, contrasting it with American retreats from scientific funding. The conversation also covers China’s use of surveillance tech and its demographic challenges stemming from the one-child policy.
Topics discussed
Introduction and guest Evan Osnos background
US Middle East involvement and China's strategic benefit
China-Iran relations and US military perception
Tariffs, trade deficits, and global market shifts
Chinese views on US decline and Trump's policies
China's lead in EVs, AI, and biotech research
Automation in Chinese factories and robot efficiency
Demographic crisis, one-child policy, and youth anxiety
Surveillance tech, emotion recognition, and social control
AI regulation differences between US and China
Historical cycles of power and US global leadership
Podcast discussion and closing credits
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