'New Yorker' cartoonists confess to nightmare kitchens
Summary
Roz Chast and Jason Adam Katzenstein discuss their new collaborative book, *The Two Saddest Kitchens*, which humorously chronicles their chaotic and dysfunctional kitchen spaces. The conversation explores their personal anxieties, including Katzenstein’s experiences with OCD and Chast’s driving fears, while also touching on their careers as *New Yorker* cartoonists and their friendship.
Topics discussed
Sponsor: NRDC Wildlife Conservation
Book Overview: The Two Saddest Kitchens
Guest Introductions and Backgrounds
Personal Feelings About Kitchen Clutter
Minimalism vs. Embarrassment in Writing
Visiting Each Other's Kitchens
The 'Cheese-tainer' and Family Habits
Expired Food and Avoidance Behaviors
Expiration Dates and Cockroach Jokes
Refrigerator Magnets and Poisoning Fears
Parental Cooking Habits and Anxieties
Kitchen Catastrophes: The Pizza Incident
Kitchen Catastrophes: Cabinet Collapse
Show Recap and Sponsor Break
OCD, Routine, and Exposure Therapy
Managing OCD Compulsions and Stigma
Therapeutic Value of Graphic Memoirs
Collaborative Cooking and Driving Anxiety
Microwaves and Car Warning Lights
Dreams, Nightmares, and Lucid Dreaming
Cartooning as a Profession and Competition
Collaboration and Closing Remarks
Book Review: Seven Stories About Tammy
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