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Platinum songwriter Jimmy Webb

Oct 23, 2026 · 44m

Summary

Fresh Air host Terry Gross interviews legendary songwriter Jimmy Webb about his career, including the origins of hits like "By the Time I Get to Phoenix" and "MacArthur Park." Webb discusses his early life, his time at Motown, and the unique challenges of writing for the 1960s and 70s. The episode also features a review by film critic Justin Chang of the new South Korean drama "Possible Love," which explores the aftermath of a factory layoff and the resilience of a working-class couple.

Topics discussed

Sponsor and show introduction Introduction to Jimmy Webb and MacArthur Park Webb's career highlights and upcoming events Writing and history of By the Time I Get to Phoenix Glen Campbell performs By the Time I Get to Phoenix The origin of place-name songs like Wichita Lineman Analyzing the false rhyme in Wichita Lineman Freedy Johnson performs Wichita Lineman Sponsor breaks Webb's childhood, church life, and mother's death Leaving home for Hollywood and early struggles Getting the Motown Publishing contract MacArthur Park's radio history and cultural impact Discussing the baffling lyrics of MacArthur Park Sponsor breaks Richard Harris's performance and legacy Richard Harris performs MacArthur Park Donna Summer's disco version and number one record Straddling rock and popular song eras Glen Campbell performs Galveston Preview of film review and sponsor breaks Review of South Korean film Possible Love Show credits and social media promotion NPR Politics Podcast promotion
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