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French-Moroccan writer Leïla Slimani on feminism & freedom

Jul 27, 2026 · 45m

Summary

Terry Gross interviews novelist Leila Slimani about her new book, *I’ll Take the Fire*, which concludes a trilogy inspired by her mixed-race Moroccan-French family. Slimani discusses themes of identity, colonialism, and the criminalization of sexuality in Morocco, drawing on her parents’ experiences with government oppression and social hypocrisy. She also reflects on her journey from journalism to fiction, the influence of Simone de Beauvoir, and the challenges of balancing motherhood with her writing career.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Great Wolf Lodge Introduction to Leila Slimani and her trilogy Why she wrote the trilogy: family identity Tribalism, identity politics, and dual heritage Family contradictions: liberal home vs. public silence Her father's career, conviction, and exoneration Her mother as a pioneering doctor and moral duty Women's rights, illiteracy, and social judgment Personal experiences of injustice and starting to write Moroccan laws on sexuality and social inequality Sponsors: FX Alien Earth and Whole Foods Impact of upbringing on her view of sexuality Moving to France: expectations vs. reality The cost of freedom and being a writer Sponsors: FX Love Story and Whole Foods Cultural differences: generosity in Morocco vs. France Influence of Simone de Beauvoir on her worldview Balancing motherhood, writing, and non-traditional roles Sponsors: FX Alien Earth and Whole Foods Reflections on being raised by a nanny Hiring a nanny and managing maternal guilt Being detained in Tunisia with her infant Transition from journalism to fiction Preview of next episode and show credits Sponsors: DSW and A Braver Way
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