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Jason Segel is not afraid of the ‘dirty underneath’

Aug 18, 2026 · 45m

Summary

Jason Segel discusses his Emmy-nominated role in *Shrinking*, a series about a grieving therapist who gives patients direct advice. He shares how his own therapy experiences and OCD influenced the show’s unconventional approach. Segel also reflects on his career evolution from comedy to drama, his sobriety, and the personal significance of projects like *Dispatches from Elsewhere* and *The End of the Tour*.

Topics discussed

Intro: Jason Segel's role in Shrinking and unconventional therapy Discussion on directive therapy and personal shame Segel's decision-making struggles and OCD tendencies Channeling anxiety into creativity and Dispatches from Elsewhere Transition to drama, likability, and therapist wish fulfillment Ad breaks and podcast promotions Origin story of Shrinking and meeting Bill Lawrence Acting with Harrison Ford and the goal of unselfconscious performance Ad breaks and NPR app promotion The Dracula puppet musical and love for Les Misérables Break and reintroduction Sobriety, career shifts, and parental influence Conclusion, credits, and final advertisements
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