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Is Jared Kushner a 'walking conflict of interest'?

Sep 16, 2026 · 46m

Summary

Fresh Air host Tanya Mosley interviews New Yorker staff writer Dexter Filkins about his new piece, "Jared Kushner’s Dollar Diplomacy." They discuss Kushner’s dual role as an unpaid White House peace envoy and the manager of a private equity fund backed by billions from Gulf states. Filkins details how Kushner’s relationships with leaders like Saudi Crown Prince MBS and his negotiations in Iran and Ukraine raise serious conflict-of-interest questions. The conversation explores whether Kushner’s lack of diplomatic experience and business mindset have complicated efforts to resolve major globa…

Topics discussed

Intro: Code Switch and guest introduction Dexter Filkins' background and the dual role conflict Legal ethics of Kushner's unpaid diplomatic role Comparing Kushner to traditional revolving door lobbyists Steve Witkoff and the bypassing of State Department Kushner's argument for non-expert diplomacy Origins of the Saudi Arabia alliance in 2017 The pivotal phone call and MBS's rise to power Qatar investment refusal and the subsequent blockade The Abraham Accords and breaking Arab consensus Kushner's diplomatic strategy and future goals Gaza reconstruction plans and Davos presentation Founding Affinity Partners and initial funding MBS's decision to invest despite objections Theories on why Saudi Arabia bought influence Geneva nuclear talks and lack of technical advisors Breakdown of negotiations and start of war Simultaneous fundraising during diplomatic crisis Ukraine diplomacy and the 'Putin's wish list' Critique of the US approach to ending the war Oligarch gifts and perceptions in Moscow Book review: Kate Atkinson's 'Our Noble Selves' Preview of next episode and show credits
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