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Best Of: ‘Odyssey’ translator Emily Wilson / Actor Jon Bernthal

Aug 1, 2026 · 47m

Summary

Classics professor Emily Wilson discusses her new essay collection and her poetic translation of Homer’s Odyssey, critiquing Christopher Nolan’s film adaptation for lacking the original’s depth and divine presence. She explains her method of using iambic pentameter to preserve the epic’s oral performance qualities. Actor John Bernthal also joins the show to discuss his roles in Nolan’s Odyssey and the new Spider-Man film, reflecting on his journey from a troubled youth to a disciplined performer trained in Russia.

Topics discussed

Intro: Emily Wilson's critique of Nolan's The Odyssey Sponsors: Instacart and The Dog Stars Emily Wilson's new book: Crossing the Wine Dark Sea Plot summary and critique of Nolan's film adaptation Challenges of translating Homer's meter and style Break and sponsor messages Reading and analyzing the opening lines of The Odyssey Performing Homer and translation choices The meaning of polytropos and modern adaptations John Bernthal on filming the Trojan horse scene Bernthal on playing the Punisher in Spider-Man Break and sponsor messages Bernthal's upbringing and Quaker education Family dynamics and early acting experiences Discovery of acting and training in Russia Life in Moscow and the seriousness of acting Credits and closing sponsor messages
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