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Best Of: Colin Kaepernick / Danielle Brooks

Sep 19, 2026 · 49m

Summary

Colin Kaepernick discusses his new memoir, The Perilous Fight, reflecting on his childhood as an adopted Black boy, his 2016 anthem protest, and the NFL’s collusion against him. In a separate interview, Danielle Brooks shares her journey from Orange Is the New Black to starring in The Color Purple and a Mahalia Jackson biopic, while discussing her new film If I Go, Will They Miss Me?

Topics discussed

Intro and Con Edison ad Introduction of guest Danielle Brooks NPR Politics and Deborah Tice promos Colin Kaepernick: Background and anthem protest Kaepernick: Childhood trauma and adoption Kaepernick: Racial bullying in white town Kaepernick: Navigating identity as adopted black boy Kaepernick: Parenting styles and cultural guidance Kaepernick: Sports as objective escape Kaepernick: Context for kneeling during anthem Mid-interview break and ads Kaepernick: NFL attempts to silence him Kaepernick: NFL hypocrisy on police brutality Kaepernick: Roger Goodell and ongoing blackballing Kaepernick: Collective action and player power Kaepernick: NFL culture of obedience Danielle Brooks: Career and Color Purple role Brooks: Recurring prison themes in her work Brooks: Auditioning for Tasty in Orange Brooks: Friendship with John Batiste Ad break and return to interview Brooks: Singing 'Hell No' from Color Purple Brooks: Transitioning from dialogue to song Brooks: Overcoming shyness through character Brooks: Singing Mahalia Jackson songs Brooks: Influence of church and gospel music Brooks: Technical challenges of singing Brooks: Growing up in a minister's household Brooks: Pressure of perfection in church Brooks: Parents' reaction to Juilliard and career Brooks: Conclusion and NPR promo
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