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How to Run an Institution in an Anti-Institution Era | Better in Person

Sep 2, 2026 · 37m

Summary

Stephen Dubner hosts Anne Pasternak of the Brooklyn Museum and Michael Roth of Wesleyan University to discuss leading cultural and educational institutions amid declining public trust. They address the impact of the October 7 attacks, free speech debates, and the role of AI in art and education. The conversation highlights the importance of modeling values, fostering diverse dialogue, and maintaining human connection in an increasingly digital world.

Topics discussed

Intro: Running institutions in an anti-institution era Michael Roth's moral voice and Anne Pasternak's principles Museums as places of reality, joy, and public space Wesleyan's purpose, fundraising, and tuition costs Public trust, critiques of museums, and endowments Navigating the post-Oct 7 crisis and cultural boycotts ChatGPT sponsor message Inviting Justice Scalia to Wesleyan and free speech Misperceptions about museum and university leadership Show and Tell: Artworks with personal significance How to look at art and the role of AI in museums AI in education and the value of social learning
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