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“I Trust Almost Anyone More Than Myself” | Better in Person

Aug 26, 2026 · 42m

Summary

Stephen Dubner interviews Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Jennifer Egan about her writing process, from *A Visit from the Goon Squad* to her new 1950s detective novel. Egan discusses her reliance on a writers' group for feedback, her strategy of working against previous stylistic choices, and her deep empathy for characters. She also shares personal reflections on her brother’s schizophrenia and her strong objections to AI in creative work.

Topics discussed

Introduction and Jennifer Egan's creative mindset Aesthetic principles and rejecting experimental traps Writing about technology and the future in Goon Squad Early life adventures and overcoming fear Writer's group dynamics and reading aloud Processing feedback and trusting one's gut The imagination and post-war America themes Family history and grandfather's connection to Truman Character depth and the effort of writing Drafting process and self-compassion Origin of Goon Squad and film adaptations Winning the Pulitzer Prize and luck vs. merit ChatGPT sponsorship segment Brother's suicide and mental health awareness Opposition to AI scraping and fiction's purpose Empathy in writing and concluding thoughts
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