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How Gary Gulman Turned Depression Into Comedy Gold | Better in Person

Jul 29, 2026 · 47m

Summary

Stephen Dubner interviews comedian Gary Gulman, who discusses his journey from accounting to stand-up and his battle with severe depression. Gulman shares how he channeled his mental health struggles into his HBO special, *The Great Depresh*, and his memoir, *Misfit*. The conversation covers his recovery through discipline, the role of basketball in his well-being, and his creative process for connecting disparate ideas in comedy.

Topics discussed

Intro and show description Gary Gullman's background and accounting Meeting Sade and effective altruism Marriage and psilocybin treatment Depression, relapse, and daily discipline The Great Depress special and HBO Comedy influences and writing philosophy Grand Iliquid and overcoming anxiety Memorizing the show and specific jokes Family dynamics and childhood memories Impact of the special on audiences Production details and career reflection Basketball memories and coaching Notebook, new jokes, and closing thoughts Outro and sponsor message
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