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Why Cooking is Caregiving, with Chef Hillary Sterling | Better in Person

Jul 22, 2026 · 42m

Summary

Stephen Dubner visits executive chef Hilary Sterling at her NYC restaurant, Chisiamo, to explore her sensory-driven cooking philosophy and career journey. They discuss her rejection of a prestigious job at Union Square Cafe, her formative experiences in the kitchen, and her deep connection to Italian culinary culture. The episode also covers the economics of running a restaurant and Sterling’s approach to teaching and leadership.

Topics discussed

Introduction to Better in Person podcast Meeting Chef Hilary Sterling and kitchen safety Cooking cacio e pepe: fresh vs. dried pasta Stephen makes fish stew for Hilary Hilary's childhood and family background Early career and the 'be one with the pork' lesson Kitchen culture, teaching through senses, and Union Square Cafe ChatGPT sponsor segment Opening Chisiamo and defining its identity Teaching philosophy and handling criticism Finding inspiration in Italian food culture Sourcing ingredients and negotiating with purveyors Conclusion and final thoughts
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