259: Nobody's Perfect, with Kathy Campbell
Jun 30, 2026 · 1h 8m
Summary
Hosts Mike Schmitz and David Sparks interview Kathy Campbell, an online business manager and podcaster, about her journey to self-employment. She shares how personal crises fueled her success and discusses helping clients overcome perfectionism by building simple, tool-agnostic systems. The conversation emphasizes authenticity, the value of failure, and delegating tasks to maintain focus and mental well-being.
Topics discussed
Introduction and Kathy Campbell's diverse roles
Kathy's journey from front desk to self-employment
Building a business while working at Apple Retail
Overcoming anxiety and embracing failure
Delegation matrix and simplifying business systems
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Creating simple, tool-agnostic SOPs
The value of vulnerability and the Museum of Failure
Empathy in business and handling client crises
Managing focus and reactive work vs deep work
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Shiny objects: Notebooks, DJI Osmo, and printers
Current reads: Wheel of Time and How to Try Again
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