$17,000 Gold? Pierre Lassonde on the 'Anti-Dollar' Bull Market Amid $40 Trillion Debt
Aug 25, 2026 · 43m
Summary
Pierre Lassonde, chairman emeritus of Franco-Nevada, joins the show to analyze the current gold bull market, predicting prices could exceed $17,000 within three years due to rising US debt and inflation. He contrasts today's economic climate with the 1970s, noting that central banks are now buying gold at record rates as a hedge against dollar devaluation. Lassonde also discusses the improved financial discipline in the mining sector, the strategic advantages of royalty companies, and advises novice investors to focus on senior producers or royalty firms rather than volatile junior developers.
Topics discussed
Intro: Gold price surge and $17,000 prediction
Guest introduction: Pierre Lassan and gold history
Comparing current bull market to the 1970s
US debt, inflation, and the case for higher gold
Gold as a global currency and central bank buying
Mining industry discipline and shareholder returns
Supply side: Investment and time to production
Managing jurisdictional risks and portfolio diversification
Drivers of gold price: Real rates and de-dollarization
The royalty model: Price and land optionality
Navigating political risks in mining jurisdictions
Silver outlook: Industrial demand and substitution
Downside risks: US debt and political will
Mining leverage and high-grade mine profitability
Technology in mining: AI, automation, and recovery
Gold confiscation: 1933 vs. modern monetary policy
Lessons from a career in gold investing
Pierre Lassan's 1993 book on gold investing
Investment advice for novice gold investors
Physical gold storage and closing remarks
Closing song: Gold Never Sleeps
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