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"The hardest thing in scoring is to know when to start and when to stop" with author Tim Greiving | The Movie Racket

Aug 24, 2026 · 44m

Summary

Michael Phillips hosts Tim Grieving, author of *John Williams, A Composer's Life*, to discuss the evolution of film scoring. They contrast the operatic, music-heavy styles of Max Steiner and John Williams with the sparse, judicious approaches of Jerry Goldsmith and Bernard Herrmann. The conversation explores how directors like Christopher Nolan and Jordan Peele are revitalizing the art form by integrating composers early in the creative process.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: UnitedHealthcare, YouTube Premium, and Lego Duplo Introduction: The importance of film music and John Williams Max Steiner and the operatic tradition in King Kong Erich Korngold and the swashbuckling score style John Williams' diverse career before Star Wars and Jaws Debate: Heavy scoring vs. sparse, realistic approaches Sponsors: YouTube Premium, T-Mobile, OnDeck, UnitedHealthcare Analyzing Patton, Chinatown, and the role of under-dialogue Jerry Goldsmith's versatility and the Chinatown score Guest Tim Griego's experience writing a book on John Williams The future of film scoring: Modern composers and director partnerships Outro and final sponsor messages
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