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Your Wine and Beer are Deadlier than Fentanyl with Isabella Cueto and Lev Facher

Aug 19, 2026 · 1h 10m

Summary

Adam Conover is joined by Stat journalists Lev Fasher and Isabella Cueto to discuss alcohol as America’s deadliest drug, causing nearly 180,000 annual deaths. They debunk myths about moderate drinking’s health benefits, highlighting risks like cancer and brain shrinkage even at low levels. The episode examines how corporate influence and cultural norms prevent public health measures, such as nutrition labeling, that successfully reduced smoking harms.

Topics discussed

Intro and Arizona State University sponsorship The hidden health risks of alcohol and public health comparisons Interview introduction: Alcohol's societal harm vs. fentanyl Myths of moderate drinking and the cigarette comparison Industry influence on policy, taxes, and labeling Conflicting messaging on alcohol and dietary guidelines Sponsors: Delete Me, Dunk Man, and Shopify Hard data: 178,000 annual deaths and disease links Cancer risks, Gen Z trends, and marketing to women The rise of hard seltzers and high-alcohol products Host's personal journey with low-grade alcohol addiction Treatment gaps, AA limitations, and the temperance movement Sponsors: WhatNot, Hungry Root, and Squarespace Social stigma and the binary view of alcohol problems GLP-1s for addiction and public health interventions Practical tips and shifting societal conversations Outro and Patreon support California Closets sponsorship
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