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Why everyone's an introvert now

Aug 23, 2026 · 27m

Summary

This episode explores the science of introversion and extroversion, featuring psychologist Shannon Sauer-Zavala and reporter Olga Khazan. They discuss how personality traits exist on a continuum rather than in rigid categories and how the pandemic shifted social behaviors. The conversation also covers the Big Five personality model and demonstrates that traits can be intentionally changed through practice, such as taking improv classes.

Topics discussed

Listener question: Is everyone claiming to be an introvert? Expert insight: Introversion as a continuum, not a category How personality traits change as we age The Big Five model vs. popular personality types Why we love personality buckets and how to change traits Olga Hasan's experiment: Overcoming extreme introversion Using improv to become more extroverted The value of introversion and the myth of pure types
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