Why everyone's an introvert now
Aug 23, 2026 · 27m
Summary
This episode explores the science of introversion and extroversion, featuring psychologist Shannon Sauer-Zavala and reporter Olga Khazan. They discuss how personality traits exist on a continuum rather than in rigid categories and how the pandemic shifted social behaviors. The conversation also covers the Big Five personality model and demonstrates that traits can be intentionally changed through practice, such as taking improv classes.
Topics discussed
Listener question: Is everyone claiming to be an introvert?
Expert insight: Introversion as a continuum, not a category
How personality traits change as we age
The Big Five model vs. popular personality types
Why we love personality buckets and how to change traits
Olga Hasan's experiment: Overcoming extreme introversion
Using improv to become more extroverted
The value of introversion and the myth of pure types
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