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John Hackleman – The Pit Master – EP289

Sep 17, 2026 · 49m

Summary

John Hackleman, founder of The Pit and creator of Hawaiian Kempo, shares his journey from a bullied child in Hawaii to a professional boxer and kickboxer. He discusses his time on the U.S. Army boxing team and his pivotal role in training MMA legends like Chuck Liddell and Glover Teixeira. Hackleman reflects on the evolution of his teaching style, the safety of his athletes, and his legacy in combat sports.

Topics discussed

Introduction and sponsor segment Guest bio: John Godin's martial arts legacy Early life in Hawaii and first dojo experience Origins of Kajukenpo and street self-defense focus Creating a safe competition division for students Army service and joining the boxing team Professional boxing career and suspension Transition to kickboxing and early MMA fights Meeting Don King and starting to teach in a backyard Moving to Arroyo Grande and meeting Chuck Liddell Opening The Pit gym and leaving full-time work Evolving curriculum with elite fighters Renaming Kajukenpo to Hawaiian Kempo First black belt students and global affiliates Training law enforcement and gym wars Relationship with Chuck Liddell and his character The Pit TV platform and retirement plans The 'Don't let anyone take your lunch money' motto Injuries from weightlifting and jiu-jitsu Walk-up music and personal playlists Glover Teixeira and early MMA innovation Bruce Lee's 'Warrior' and connections to Cecil Peck Benny 'The Jet' and Dana Goodson stories Frank Sinatra vs. Sylvester Stallone celebrity fight
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