John Hackleman – The Pit Master – EP289
Sep 17, 2026 · 49m
Summary
John Hackleman, founder of The Pit and creator of Hawaiian Kempo, shares his journey from a bullied child in Hawaii to a professional boxer and kickboxer. He discusses his time on the U.S. Army boxing team and his pivotal role in training MMA legends like Chuck Liddell and Glover Teixeira. Hackleman reflects on the evolution of his teaching style, the safety of his athletes, and his legacy in combat sports.
Topics discussed
Introduction and sponsor segment
Guest bio: John Godin's martial arts legacy
Early life in Hawaii and first dojo experience
Origins of Kajukenpo and street self-defense focus
Creating a safe competition division for students
Army service and joining the boxing team
Professional boxing career and suspension
Transition to kickboxing and early MMA fights
Meeting Don King and starting to teach in a backyard
Moving to Arroyo Grande and meeting Chuck Liddell
Opening The Pit gym and leaving full-time work
Evolving curriculum with elite fighters
Renaming Kajukenpo to Hawaiian Kempo
First black belt students and global affiliates
Training law enforcement and gym wars
Relationship with Chuck Liddell and his character
The Pit TV platform and retirement plans
The 'Don't let anyone take your lunch money' motto
Injuries from weightlifting and jiu-jitsu
Walk-up music and personal playlists
Glover Teixeira and early MMA innovation
Bruce Lee's 'Warrior' and connections to Cecil Peck
Benny 'The Jet' and Dana Goodson stories
Frank Sinatra vs. Sylvester Stallone celebrity fight
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