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E142: The Hidden Climate Power of Local Politics

Jul 9, 2026 · 32m

Summary

Host Molly Wood interviews Caroline Spears, founder of Climate Cabinet, about the critical role of overlooked state and local officials in advancing clean energy policy. They discuss how data science and AI help identify impactful candidates for positions like mayors and public service commissioners who control power plants and grid decisions. The conversation highlights the surge in data center development, the problematic use of NDAs by lawmakers, and the need for transparency to ensure affordable, clean energy solutions.

Topics discussed

Zen nicotine pouches advertisement Introduction: The importance of local and state climate action Caroline Spears and the origin story of Climate Cabinet Using data science and AI to find overlooked candidates Examples of powerful local offices: Mayors and city councils The critical role of state legislatures and budget committees Modernizing policy work with AI and large language models Supporting candidates: Staffing, resources, and governance Criteria for support: Climate impact and political window Misconceptions about local power and federal funding tailwinds Zen nicotine pouches advertisement Empowering voters and the rise of data center conversations Data centers: Costs, clean energy, and lawmaker NDAs The controversy of lawmakers signing NDAs with developers Balancing data centers with transportation and household bills Climate Cabinet's community, donors, and call to run for office Conclusion and resources for listeners Acast and Wrong Turns podcast promotion
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