Television's Prestige Hangover Era Is Here
Aug 28, 2026 · 38m
Summary
Hosts Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro interview acclaimed director Hiro Murai, discussing the shift from "prestige TV" to a current era of "mid" content driven by streaming algorithms and distracted viewing. Murai reflects on his work on *Atlanta*, *The Bear*, and *Widows of the Bay*, emphasizing the importance of balancing artistic invention with traditional storytelling. The conversation also covers his collaborative process, personal views on aging, and his upcoming samurai film.
Topics discussed
Sponsor reads: Instagram Teen Accounts and Bior
Introduction of guest Hiro Murai and his credits
Defining the era of Prestige TV and Peak TV
The rise of 'Mid TV' and streaming influence on quality
Hiro Murai's career and the show Widows of the Bay
Murai on balancing invention with traditional TV formats
The evolution of Atlanta and the blurring of TV and film
Murai's aesthetic: Surrealism, weirdness, and feeling
Collaboration dynamics and executing a creator's vision
Hosts' collaboration advice and game introduction
Game: Scary scenes directed and '40s are the new 30s'
Reflections on aging, career stability, and gay history
Game: Movies that make him cry and the 'Never Catch Me' video
Game: Belief in ghosts and a personal sleep paralysis story
Murai's upcoming samurai film and closing remarks
Outro, listener engagement, and final sponsor reads
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