Emo Revival With Andrew Sacher
Summary
The author discusses the release of their book on the emo revival, noting its positive reception and its focus on the post-2009 era rather than the 90s. They explore how the scene evolved from pastiche to distinct innovation, driven by friendly competition among bands like Foxing and The Hotelier. The conversation also examines the role of digital platforms in shaping the community and how the "emo" label expanded to include adjacent genres like post-hardcore. Finally, they reflect on the shift from social networking to content creation and debate the timeline for when this specific wave of…
Topics discussed
Introduction and book reception
Defining the revival and avoiding 90s nostalgia
The pastiche era and Algernon's influence
Transition from revival to innovation
Rejecting pop-punk and the Philly scene
Innovation, rivalry, and the ceiling of emo
Healthy competition and the Run For Cover sound
Soft grunge and the rise of internet genres
Genre muddiness and the DIY label
Cultural vs musical identity and journalism
The value of mainstream music press coverage
Indie rock exclusion and major label pop
Digital shift from forums to social media
Loss of online infrastructure and authenticity
Defining the end of the 4th wave
The crumble and the next generation
New generation vs new wave terminology
Career bands and the end of an era
Debating the 5th wave and cultural shifts
Positive legacy and the future of the scene
American Football's overvaluation and math rock
Shoegaze parallels and where to buy the book
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