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533: The Garage Is Open

Sep 4, 2026 · 59m

Summary

Susan Lammers, author of the 40th-anniversary edition of *Programmers at Work*, joins hosts Alicia and Christopher White to discuss her interviews with early personal computing pioneers. They explore the book’s historical context, the shift from individual creativity to corporate dominance, and Lammers’ current project reviving her 1990s Headbone Interactive games for modern platforms.

Topics discussed

Introduction and Susan Lammers' background Lightning round: Favorites and a robot encounter Origins of 'Programmers at Work' and interview selection Interview settings and the obscurity of early programmers Risk-taking, personal computing freedom, and cloud trends The absence of women in the original book Interview techniques and handling technical jargon The 40th anniversary edition and timeless advice Preserving the book as a historical time capsule Susan's career at Microsoft and the CD-ROM era The book's impact and the value of constraints Reviving Headbone Interactive games and final thoughts
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