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Dylan Patel – Anthropic & OpenAI will have most of the world’s compute by 2028

Aug 25, 2026 · 1h 16m

Summary

Dwarkesh Patel interviews Dylan Patel of Semi Analysis on the rapid centralization of AI compute, where labs like OpenAI and Anthropic are capturing most new capacity. They discuss how these labs are transitioning from venture-funded losses to massive profitability, driving up compute prices and reshaping the supply chain. The conversation covers the widening gap between US and Chinese compute capabilities, regulatory impacts on model releases, and the strategic shift toward prioritizing training over inference to accelerate AGI development.

Topics discussed

Intro: AI CapEx ballooning to $2T and lab profitability Centralization of compute: Labs vs. the world Compute supply constraints and arbitrage opportunities Revenue per megawatt and the race for 100GW Value capture: Why labs dominate over app layer Compute pricing dynamics and supply chain bottlenecks Timeline for Recursive Self-Improvement (RSI) Training vs. Inference compute allocation shifts China's AI compute growth and domestic chip production Global AI CapEx reaching $10T by decade's end Sponsor: Antithesis deterministic testing platform Sovereign debt crisis risks from AI infrastructure Interest rates, credit markets, and equity valuations Regulatory slowdowns and government intervention Sponsor: Jane Street ML internship opportunities Future of labor, centralization, and AGI alignment
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