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Carbon Credit Markets Have a Human Rights Problem

Sep 25, 2026 · 39m

Summary

In this episode of The Spill, host Nina Lekani interviews UN Special Rapporteur on climate change Elisa Mogera about her latest report on carbon markets. They discuss how the market logic of carbon credits perpetuates greenwashing and fails to deliver effective climate mitigation. Mogera explains how these instruments often violate the human rights of indigenous peoples and peasants through land accumulation and displacement. The conversation also covers the ICJ advisory opinion, the need for defossilization over decarbonization, and the interconnected power structures driving climate disin…

Topics discussed

Sponsorships: Mastercard and Brilliant Show intro and episode overview Role of UN Special Rapporteur and methodology Fossil fuels in COP negotiations and health impacts Overview of carbon markets and decarbonization Critique of carbon credit logic and greenwashing Human rights violations and power imbalances Corporate involvement and lack of evidence Carbon tunnel vision and scientific mismatch Sponsorships: Mastercard and LifeLock Sponsorship: Healthcare engine ICJ Advisory Opinion and legal obligations Report process, consultations, and recommendations Defossilization vs. decarbonization and health Limitations of narrow climate targets Corporate power, land accumulation, and disinformation Systemic connections: food, tech, and fossil fuels Transition Away from Fossil Fuels Conference and COP 31 Outro, credits, and Navy Federal sponsorship
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