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Amy Westervelt on the Real Organic Podcast: Think Tanks, Greenwashing + The War on Reality

Sep 15, 2026 · 1h 17m

Summary

This episode features climate journalist Amy Westervelt discussing her investigation into how corporate PR and think tanks have shaped public discourse on climate and agriculture. Westervelt explains the history of greenwashing, tracing tactics from Edward Bernays to E. Bruce Harrison’s strategy of using voluntary corporate actions to avoid regulation. She details how the fossil fuel industry used these methods to delay climate action and how similar "pre-lobbying" tactics are now being applied to industrial agriculture and carbon capture initiatives.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: Navy Federal and Optum Introduction to the Real Organic Podcast Guest Introduction: Amy and Greenwashing Sponsors: Navy Federal, Optum, and OnDec Amy's Background and New Book The Role of Think Tanks in Policy Strategies of Think Tanks and Lobbying Corporate Influence on American Society The Birth of Corporate PR and Edward Bernays Bernays' Tactics: Women Smoking and Wristwatches Ivy Lee, Standard Oil, and Advice to Hitler WWI Propaganda and E. Bruce Harrison Silent Spring and the Rise of Environmental Law The Invention of Greenwashing Oil Companies and Climate Change Knowledge Repeating Strategies: Plastic and Emissions Why Oil Companies Abandoned Renewables Critique of Lab-Grown Meat and Carbon Capture Corn Ethanol, Carbon Capture, and Enhanced Oil Recovery The Captured Information Ecosystem How Corporations Capture Information and Media The Overlap Between Big Oil and Big Ag Debate on Land Sparing and Re-wilding The Psychology of Climate Solutions Silver Linings and Hope for the Future Outro and Sponsors: Real Organic and Nissan
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