Deprogrammed - Is Woke a Spiritual War? with James Lindsay, Bradley Helgerson & Keri Smith
Mar 26, 2025 · 2h 7m
Summary
Keri Smith hosts atheist Dr. James Lindsay and Pastor Bradley Helgerson to discuss whether the "woke" movement constitutes a spiritual war. They analyze Marxism and critical theory as inverted theological systems that seek to re-enchant a secular world, arguing that these ideologies function as a destructive mythology. The conversation explores the human need for transcendent meaning, contrasting the hollow narratives of postmodernism with the enduring power of the Christian mythos.
Topics discussed
Introduction and guest introductions
Defining the spiritual war and consciousness orientation
Technical issues and light glitches
Postmodern mythos and the re-enchantment of the world
Sam Harris as the embodiment of the dialectic of enlightenment
Woke as a belief system and mythology
The God-shaped hole and human variation
Identity, community, and the need for the transcendent
Christianity as a metanarrative and its unique message
The role of mystical experience and the Matrix analogy
The importance of ritual and performative activism
Personal motivations for speaking out against dystopia
Resentment vs. gratitude and the Hegelian-Marxist framework
The Deuteronomic cycle and contagious resentment
Personal anecdotes on narcissism and control
The church's struggle with cultural engagement
The winsome Christian strategy and its failures
Progressive Christians as Marxist tools
Political shifts and the need for pastors to pick a side
The label of Christian nationalist and media distortion
Media bias and the peak of adult conversions
Psychology of faith, truth, and the satanic nature of accusation
Destruction of the image of God and effigy burning
Parallels between Jesus and Confucius
The Tower of Babel and the temple-building creation story
Conclusion, spiritual death, and recommended resources
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