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In Defense of Elites, with Richard Hanania

Jul 13, 2026 · 1h 19m

Summary

Coleman speaks with political scientist Richard Hanania about his new book, *Cacistocracy*, which critiques right-wing populism as "rule by the worst." Hanania discusses his evolution from alt-right extremism to a defender of institutional expertise, arguing that elites generally outperform populist leaders. The conversation covers the definition of populism, the value of trusting experts despite occasional errors, and Hanania’s views on the Israel-Palestine conflict.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: 2026 Toyota RAV4 Limited Introduction of guest Richard Hanania and his book Hanania's journey from alt-right to mainstream conservative The psychology of changing views and public apologies Defining populism and the concept of elites The role of institutions and gatekeepers in society Why elites often outperform populists empirically Sponsor: Free Press retreat in New York Navigating expert consensus vs. politicized issues How communication technology fueled the rise of populism The appeal of combative political styles The military-industrial complex and foreign policy expertise Populism on the left vs. the right Why populism is currently more right-wing Social conformity and identity in Middle Eastern societies Advice for young men drawn to extremist politics
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