In Defense of Elites, with Richard Hanania
Jul 13, 2026 · 1h 19m
Summary
Coleman speaks with political scientist Richard Hanania about his new book, *Cacistocracy*, which critiques right-wing populism as "rule by the worst." Hanania discusses his evolution from alt-right extremism to a defender of institutional expertise, arguing that elites generally outperform populist leaders. The conversation covers the definition of populism, the value of trusting experts despite occasional errors, and Hanania’s views on the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Topics discussed
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Introduction of guest Richard Hanania and his book
Hanania's journey from alt-right to mainstream conservative
The psychology of changing views and public apologies
Defining populism and the concept of elites
The role of institutions and gatekeepers in society
Why elites often outperform populists empirically
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Navigating expert consensus vs. politicized issues
How communication technology fueled the rise of populism
The appeal of combative political styles
The military-industrial complex and foreign policy expertise
Populism on the left vs. the right
Why populism is currently more right-wing
Social conformity and identity in Middle Eastern societies
Advice for young men drawn to extremist politics
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