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Should the CIA spy on foreign companies to help American ones?

Oct 21, 2026 · 10m

Summary

Former CIA Deputy Director David Cohen argues the U.S. should abandon its norm against economic espionage to protect American companies from foreign theft. He contends that China’s rapid technological advancement and the integration of private firms into national defense make traditional protocols obsolete. Cohen proposes using intelligence to aid U.S. commercial interests, provided strict oversight prevents political favoritism. The episode explores the risks of this shift and the need for closer collaboration between the intelligence community and the tech sector.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The threat of economic espionage Sponsor announcements and show promos Interview intro: David Cohen's argument Why the US has tilted the playing field The line between national security and commercial aid Proposals for controlled intelligence sharing Challenges of oversight and political neutrality Anticipated resistance from CIA personnel Adapting intelligence skills for the AI era Credits and outro Promo for Where is Austin Tice?
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