Should the CIA spy on foreign companies to help American ones?
Oct 21, 2026 · 10m
Summary
Former CIA Deputy Director David Cohen argues the U.S. should abandon its norm against economic espionage to protect American companies from foreign theft. He contends that China’s rapid technological advancement and the integration of private firms into national defense make traditional protocols obsolete. Cohen proposes using intelligence to aid U.S. commercial interests, provided strict oversight prevents political favoritism. The episode explores the risks of this shift and the need for closer collaboration between the intelligence community and the tech sector.
Topics discussed
Introduction: The threat of economic espionage
Sponsor announcements and show promos
Interview intro: David Cohen's argument
Why the US has tilted the playing field
The line between national security and commercial aid
Proposals for controlled intelligence sharing
Challenges of oversight and political neutrality
Anticipated resistance from CIA personnel
Adapting intelligence skills for the AI era
Credits and outro
Promo for Where is Austin Tice?
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