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What does global leadership on AI look like?

Sep 20, 2026 · 9m

Summary

Ahead of the Trump-Xi summit, this episode explores the US-China race for AI supremacy and cyber dominance. Former Deputy National Security Advisor Anne Newberger discusses "digital choke points," US infrastructure vulnerabilities, and how AI aids defenders. She highlights the strategic difference between US cutting-edge models and China's cost-effective approach, suggesting cooperation on preventing AI-assisted chemical weapons development.

Topics discussed

Introduction: Trump and Xi meeting in Washington AI as the top priority for US-China talks Trump's stance on AI risks and the 'AI force' Overview of the US-China power dynamic Agenda items: Trade, security, and tech competition Interview intro: Anne Newberger on cyber dominance Managing cyber miscalculations and red lines China's offensive cyber program and prepositioning Digital choke points and infrastructure risks US vulnerabilities: Aging infrastructure and tech debt AI as a game changer for cyber defense AI advantages for defenders vs. attackers How AI helps detect anomalies and patch code Potential areas of US-China cooperation Preventing AI-assisted WMD development Precedent: Cooperation on fentanyl controls Misunderstandings about China's tech strategy US cutting-edge models vs. China's cost-effective approach The role of open source and democratic ideals in AI Closing remarks and show credits
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