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The Bastard Children of Neoliberalism

Jun 30, 2026 · 1h 3m

Summary

Host Thomas Small interviews historian Quinn Slobodian about his book *Hayek’s Bastards*, which traces how neoliberal thought evolved into far-right ideologies. They discuss how figures like Murray Rothbard and Charles Murray twisted Friedrich Hayek’s ideas to support racial hierarchy and biological determinism. The conversation explores the intellectual lineage connecting libertarian economics to modern authoritarian politics and the far right.

Topics discussed

Intro, World Cup updates, and sponsor ads Episode overview: Hayek's Bastards and Quinn Slobodian Host and guest introductions and political backgrounds Why neoliberals were depressed after the fall of communism Slobodian's intellectual journey and the 1999 WTO protests Friedrich Hayek's knowledge problem and cultural evolution Introducing Hayek's Bastards: Rothbard, Brimelow, and Gold Bugs Host's confessional: past attraction to reactionary thought The appeal of fringe ideas and the book's target audience Hayek's later views on race, civilization, and hierarchy Cultural Austrians vs. Racial Austrians and scientism The Bell Curve, IQ, and the political use of science Murray Rothbard: from hippie outreach to white nationalism Secessionism, HOAs, and the post-collapse libertarian dream Critique of the 'fringe' narrative and mainstream influence Outro, credits, and final sponsor messages
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